Spying on Anti-War Protestors in Maryland
Submitted by JC on July 23, 2008 - 7:19am.
For the past few days, there has been an outrageous story developing in the local DC and Baltimore papers that I want to bring to your attention. During the administration of Republican Governor Robert Ehrlich, the Maryland State Police's Department of Homeland Security spied on peace activists and anti-death penalty groups, classifying their activites as akin to terrorism. One of the subjects of that abusive surveillance wrote this response in The Nation this week.
According to a Washington Post article, "Organizational meetings, public forums, prison vigils, rallies outside the State House in Annapolis and e-mail group lists were infiltrated by police posing as peace activists and death penalty opponents, the records show. The surveillance continued even though the logs contained no reports of illegal activity and consistently indicated that the activists were not planning violent protests."
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Why is this a surprise
Rep Conyers, Why do you consider this "outrageous"? Haven't you been reading your own posts here, and most especially those who have replied in at least the last 4 years? Do you not understand this is now commonplace?
Do you have a ghost writer that you yourself are not aware of what has been going on? Do you even visit your own site?
In the name of terror protection, our elected officials have turned a blind eye to our civil liberties in order to support tyranny.
This comes as no surprise to those who post here, and the tens, if not hundreds, of thousands "average" citizens who are well aware of the abuses of the current administration and those who are allowing it to happen in the "spirit of bipartisanship."
The only surprise I find in your post is that you now, for whatever reason, finally think this is outrageous.
If you have finally turned the corner to determine something is "outrageous," then let me share the meaning of the word, according to Webster's New World Dictionary.
1. having the nature of, involving, or doing great injury or wrong. 2. exceeding all bounds of decency or reasonableness, very offensive or shocking. Applies to that which so exceeds all bounds of right, morality, decency, etc, as to be intolerable.
So, my next question--how long must we wait for you to turn the next corner----that of action?
Carole J Gilbert
Agree--It is Outrageous...
...That the Congress continues to fail to step up to the plate. While I suppose there is some glimmer of hope in seeing that the Congressman acknowledges yet another of the bush outrages that we've been discussing for some time now--acknowledging the blatant lawlessness and expanding tyranny of the bush administration isn't going to stop it.
Unfortunately, WE the People don't sit on the House Judiciary Committee, so we haven't got the power to take decisive action to stop this and all the other Constitutional violations of the bush administration. Sigh...Does anyone here know someone who Does sit on the House Judiciary Committee?--you know, someone who actually has the power to hold Impeachment hearings--and the power of prosecuting members of the bush administration for their inherent contempt of Congress?
Define Abject Reality...
House Judiciary Committee meeting: Executive Power and Its Constitutional Limitations
Friday July 25, 2008. Full Committee. 10am est.
Congressman, the only restrictions placed upon the president truly are those expressly contained within the Constitution that Congress enforces upon the president.
To date, the Body of Congress has given permission to ANY Administration, the unbridled permission and power to usurp the Republic's ability to defend itself from unwarranted intrusions into the Republic's daily PRIVATE life in violation of NOT only the Fourth Amendment, but of Article II, sec. 9, paragraph 3. "NO BILLS OF ATTAINDER OR EX POST FACTO LAWS SHALL BE MADE."
And you're worried about spying on protesters? LOL... You're perpetrating a FARCE!
Don't sell us umbrellas when Congress pisses on the Republic!
Like your Committee meeting on Friday will EVER amount to a hill of beans!
Congress can't even muster the courage to support and defend the Constitution, instead providing comfort and aide for those within that beltway to VIOLATE that Document Congress swore to respect. The very FACT that you have to review what Constitutional limits the Administration can and can not operate under is a sure sign that Congress stopped being a Congress FOR, OF and BY the People of this Republic. So go ahead, examine what your failures have been.
Exposing Bush's historic abuse of power
Examine how and why a political party of the American people can act so egregiously toward the People of the U.S.A. that it's Leadership can't bring itself to defend and support the Republic, it seems that same leadership sees the necessity to violate the People's Right to free expression and dissent, even at a political rally.
Nothing says America more that the curbing and caging of dissent and the freedom to express one's self and the spying by the DNC when Liberty is interned.
A free speech graveyard at the Democratic National Convention
By John Whitehead 07/22/2008
Then lets discuss what the Democrats have done to aide and abet the lawlessness on your watch.
GOT ACCOUNTABILITY? ... NOT!
But I see lip service.
State police spying is dangerous repression
By Maria Allwine
July 22, 2008
Honestly Congressman, I don't know what you support and defend IF NOT the Constitution, what then?
You've handed out umbrellas when Congress pissed on the Fourth Amendment, Fifth Amendment, Habeas Corpus, Eighth Amendment, and TORTURE... An umbrella is NOT a remedy, IT IS A COVER!
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Live blog the hearing tomorrow?
I know that's usually done on other sites, not sure if it's been done here before - but, I'm going to be listening in tomorrow, and I would love to exchange posts during the hearing with my fellows here.
The hearing, Executive Power and Its Constitutional Limitations can be watched at the House Judiciary Committee Schedule page.
I'm not sure if CSPAN is covering it.
For some background and information on the hearing, afterdowningstreet has been doing an excellent job with updates and actions. Here's David Swanson's latest update:
"UPDATE 20: Here's the official witness list:
House Judiciary Committee Hearing on Executive Power and Its Constitutional Limitations
Who: Panel One
The Honorable Dennis Kucinich, Representative from Ohio
The Honorable Maurice Hinchey, Representative from New York
The Honorable Walter Jones, Representative from North Carolina
The Honorable Brad Miller, Representative from North Carolina
Panel Two
The Honorable Elizabeth Holtzman, Former Representative from New York
The Honorable Bob Barr, Former Representative from Georgia, 2008 Libertarian Nominee for President
The Honorable Ross C. “Rocky” Anderson, Founder and President, High Roads for Human Rights
Stephen Presser, Raoul Berger Professor of Legal History, Northwestern University School of Law
Bruce Fein, Associate Deputy Attorney General, 1981-82, Chairman, American Freedom Agenda
Vincent Bugliosi, Author and former Los Angeles County Prosecutor
Jeremy A. Rabkin, Professor of Law, George Mason University School of Law
Elliott Adams, President of the Board, Veterans for Peace
Frederick A. O. Schwarz, Jr., Senior Counsel, Brennan Center for Justice at NYU School of Law
Where:
2141 Rayburn House Office Building
When:
10:00 a.m., Friday, July 25, 2008"
That's 10:00 a.m. eastern time.
I hope to see some of your comments here tomorrow.
Agreed!
Setting my alarm now!
I'll try to check in too
Here's the C-span link. Also, KagroX has a diary on the FP of Dkos about the hearings: Today in Congress: Viewing notes on Kucinich's hearing.
BTW, FWIW, as there's a new thread posted here, we might want to comment on hearings there?
Do you really believe?
That they? are spying on peaceful protestors?
Do you really believe that they granted immunity to the tele-coN corporations ,after the fact?
Do you really believe that we, who write on your blog are "TERRORISTS"?
Are you incapable of SEEING the difference between reality and bullshit?
Do you really believe that we are here to be against you ,and not with you?
Only a couple more months John ,and you will have stalled long enough to have not done what needed to be done, to restore constitutional dignity to our country.
How hard could it be to bring a few simpletons to justice?
I suggest dropping off all traitors against that Ol Godamned piece of paper, in faluja, in the middle of the night,and letting them walk back home!
So how does it stand John? Are you with us , Or against us?
Equal Justice? Novak hits & runs & walks away with "citation"
Via this diary, this Politico post reports that: (emphasis mine)
Question: If we, the "little" people (i.e. "non-bushie media celebrities) "had a reputation for being an "aggressive driver". Had hit a pedestrian, in broad daylight, and ended up with the pedestrian "splayed across the windshield", yet proceeded to continue driving away from the scene of the accident when the pedestrian rolled off our vehicle, would we be able to jump back into our car and drive away from the scene of a hit an run, where the injured party was transported to the hospital? I seriously doubt it.
Yet, Mr. Novak seems to be part of the inner circle of "bushies" who can get away with crimes that some have described as treason--publishing the name of a covert CIA agent--to hitting a pedestrian who was lawfully crossing the street in front of him, and then driving away from the scene of the accident. Maybe I'm just clueless and we all can splay pedestrians across our windshield, wait for them to roll off, then drive away. Oh, and if someone does manage to chase us down, we'll just get a "citation" and continue on our merry way.
But then, Mr. Novak apparently told the police that "I didn't know I hit him" (Even though he was on Novak's windsield..?--Maybe Novak had his eyes closed at the time?) and he added that "I feel terrible"...Well, I guess it's all okay then, since, you know, he "feels terrible"...
"New America" in a nutshell.
Many such incidences happen on a daily basis all over America. It isn't about Dem or Repub, it's societal.
Every time a Rove or a John Bolton is allowed to tell Congress to go Cheney themselves, a few more homeless people get their heads beat in with baseball bats by gangs of fortunate children, a cop shoots another unarmed citizen, and another Right Wing Activist Judge allows enough hearsay evidence against a victim class defendant, to guarantee his conviction by jury trial.
As long as the overseers of our individual constitutional protections are allowed to choose partisan political gain, over their obligation to protect and defend said constitution, the situation will continue to devolve. With Novak allowed to out Plame with no repercussions, it is understandable for him to think that he could run us down in the street and not worry, because in reality...he can.
Pretty soon they'll be able to order that your young child be hosed down and brought to their McMansion for amusement purposes.
Who, or what, is going to stop them? As long as they're victim class, what's the big deal, eh John?
Such a Fine Example...
... The Government of the United States of America has become.
... That, if what the Bush Administration aided by the Congress of the U.S.A. can be held unaccountable, why can't Sudan... and their President Omar al-Bashir?
This is happening on your watch Congressman. The Government of the United States of America, a membership you campaigned for and were elected to fill a seat in, is being used as the excuse by another nation's leader and suspected WAR CRIMINAL. In other words, the "system" you are a part of is being touted as "THE EXAMPLE" of defense as to what WAR CRIMES UNACCOUNTED FOR look like...
You can "CHANGE" this, Congressman. But we're just miffed and baffled as to why NOT.
I hope that Friday, you discover this WHY because frankly Congressman, at this point many Americans have lost faith in our current governing bodies residing in D.C. Currently, Congress polls below that of these CONmen occupying the White House. Polls prove me correct.
9% SINGLE DIGITS 9%
Congress IS the joke. Americans may be fed up with the crimes and eager to be done with this lawless Administration come November when Diebold counts their votes, but I can tell you that Congress will NOT fair any better should the current course be maintained... I pray Friday persuades a new direction for you...
... And America!
p.s.
The National Joke...
(pt. 1)
(pt.2)
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for BLOWING the JOB!!!
Judiciary helping out Rove on Siegelman
July 23, 2008
Rep. Lamar Smith helping out Rove on Siegelman.... awww, sweet
This is getting to be rather fun. Karl Rove - who would not show and honor his subpoena and claimed he could not answer the committee questions because of Executive Privilege - answers the committees questions, on paper. How cute is that? Okay, let's go down the list. It should be noted that Rove's former client, Lamar Smith (R-TX) who is on the House Judiciary Committee sent these questions. This is an important issue, as you will shortly see:
1. Before former Alabama Governor Donald E. Siegelman's initial indictment in May 2005, did you ever communicate with any Department of Justice officials, State of Alabama officials, or any individual other than Dana Jill Simpson, Esq., regarding Governor Siegelman's investigation or potential prosecution? If so, please state separately for each communication the date, time, location, and means of the communication, the official or individual with whom you communicated, and the content of the communication.
Here is the problem. Simpson testified that Bill Canary had a conversation with people on the Bob Riley campaign (Siegelman's Republican opponenet) that he - Canary - had talked to Rove. Since Canary is not a government official in Alabama, but instead a long-time business partner of Rove's, the questions is rather empty and it is also inaccurate. So what does Rove say?
I have never communicated, either directly or indirectly, with Justice Department or Alabama officials about the investigation, indictment, potential prosecution, prosecution, conviction, or sentencing of Governor Siegelman, or about any other matter related to his case, nor have I asked any other individual to communicate about these matters on my behalf. I have never attempted, either directly or indirectly, to influence these matters.
Right, but did you speak to Bill Canary about the Siegelman case Mr. Rove at all? Crickets, because a piece of paper cannot repsond. Next question - now see if you notice a pattern:
2. Before Governor Siegelman’s initial indictment in May 2005, did you ever communicate with Dana Jill Simpson, Esq., regarding Governor Siegelman or Governor Siegelman’s investigation or potential prosecution? If so, please state separately each communication the date, time, location, means, and content of the communication.
One would think that Mr. Smith is trying to purposefuly distort the actual allegation, cutting Mr. Canary out entirely. Again, the conversation is alleged to have happened between Mr. Canary and Mr. Rove. I won't bother posting Rove's answer. TPM has the whole exchange here. But you will notice that the ENTIRE letter is aimed at putting Mr. Rove's word against Ms. Simpson's word and descretely eliminating the mention of Canary, allowing Rove the room to lie. See, it is Smith who is lying and Rove who is answering Smith's lies.
Here are some questions I would like to see asked by someone who is not beholden to Rove as Mr. Smith is - and should be reason enough for him to recuse himself from the proceedings:
1. Did Mr. Rove discuss Siegelman's investigation, indictment, or trial with Bill Canary at any time? If so, what was the content, date, time, etc.
2. Did Mr. Rove discuss Siegelman's investigation, indictment, or trial with Gov. Bob Riley at any time? If so, what was the content, date, time, etc.
3. Did Mr. Rove use Ms. Susan Rolston as a cut-out through which he provided directives to the DOJ at any point regarding any part of the Siegelman investigation, indictment, or trial? If so, dates, times, etc.
4. Did Mr. Rove use Jack Abramoff as a cut-out through which he provided directives to the DOJ at any point regarding any part of the Siegelman investigation, indictment, or trial? If so, dates, times, etc.
5. Did Mr. Rove suggest that Mrs. Leura Canary - Bill Canary's wife - be appointed US Attorney for the Middle District of Alabama? If so, why?
6. Did Mr. Rove take any trips to Rosemary Beach or Alabama during 2000-05, during which he met with Bill Canary and/or Leura Canary? What were the dates, times, purpose of those trips and what was discussed?
I would start with those and under oath, thank you. Not this crap from Smith which is laughable at best. I think that some Texas muck-rackers need to start digging into Smith's dedication to Mr. Rove, going so far as to fabricate and distort in order to help his dear old pal. That is not his job as a member of Congress and if he has to choose his buddy over his obligation, he need not be in office. I doubt anyone would abuse their position of power to this extent unless there was some reason that "motivated" them to do so. In fact, I had rarely ever paid much attention to Mr. Smith, but now, he is absolutely on my radar.
Posted by Larisa Alexandrovna on July 23, 2008 at 11:16 PM
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You can lead a republican to the truth, but you can't make him think it...
Good thing you capitulated. You mighta had to do something.
Once again Mr. Conyers is attempting to close the barn door after he forcefully evicted the horses.
So we're supposed to believe that King Georgie and the Fascists, would pull out all the stops to spy on low level peace protestors, but stop short of using FISA violations and intelligence spies to blackmail a Michigan congressmen who holds the keys to his kingdom?
Yeah right...and the election will be 100% trustworthy even though Congress has allowed America's election commission to languish without a working quorum. Does that mean it is now a re-election commission?
When any of America's politicians warn us to be wary of evil people doing evil things, we should immediately look into their own behaviour as far as it pertains to the crimes in question. Otherwise how do we stop people like Mark Foley from writing pedophile legislation, and Larry Craig from tip-tapping his legislation to the Supreme Court, to stop gay marriages?
First you provide amnesty to FISA violators, then you provide us with information about citizens in the United States who may have been victims of the violations you provided amnesty for?
Someone really should check for lead in the drinking water in Michigan. I can understand being misled into electing Congressman Conyers for a couple of decades, but to continue electing him after you're laid-off, foreclosed on, eating out of a dumpster, or imprisoned?
It has to be brain damage.
Why Rove is too busy for Congress-He's got people to Threaten
Rove threatened GOP IT Guru if he Does Not "Take the Fall" For Election Fraud in Ohio:
"Congressional Oversight Responsibilities"?? Congress has "oversight responsibilities"? Who knew? Apparently no one in Congress. Or maybe they've also been "threatened & intimidated" by Mr. Rove? Speaking of being intimidated--are we still the "Home of the Brave"? Sadly, it seems that our "Representatives" have forgotten the meaning of the words "Brave" or "Oversight" or "Support and Defend the Constitution of the United States".
Congress?? Hello? Are there any sentient beings present in the Congress? We the People are still waiting for Justice to prevail. Are we waiting in vain?
Discourse in The Public Square...
Discourse in The Public Square...
An MTV generation...
A conflict of interest in the House...
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Rove Abscond Day Count:15